Top 10 fights for the rest of 2009

In light of the boxing lull right now, I am going to play amateur matchmaker and give you my top 10 fights that can be made this year. Keep in mind that Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, a host of super middleweights and others will not be included because of current fight obligations. All of the fighters on my list have nothing scheduled as of the date of this column. Here you go:

Number 10. Tomasz Adamek v. Steve Cunningham. Adamek's split decision victory over Cunningham in December added a little bit of drama to what may well be the weakest division in boxing. They should fight one more time and then consider moving up to the second weakest division in boxing, heavyweight.

Number 9. Sergio Martinez v. Kermit Cintron. Most observers thought that Martinez won the first fight and Cintron is coming off a nice win over Alfredo Angulo.  Time to throw down again boys.

Number 8. Ricky Hatton v Amir Khan. Okay, this is the one that I'm going to get the most comments on, which I understand, but hear me out. There comes a time when a closure fight is needed. Khan is not a big knockout artist and he is a British subject. This fight is a good one for Hatton to say good-bye to the sport on his home turf. After Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Pacquiao, Hatton fans deserve a final home game.

Number 7. Vitali Klitschko v. Eddie Chambers. I have a furrowed brow about this one too, but the older Klitschko isn't going to fight his brother and David Haye is now going to fight Nikolay Valuev.

Number 6. Chris Arreola v. Wladimir Klitschko. HBO can broadcast it and do a co-featured main event with the other fight being Vitali Klitschko v. Eddie Chambers. Listen, the K brothers need to be tested and we have to learn if Chambers and Arreola are for real or merely Calvin Brock impersonators.

Number 5. Celestino Caballero v. Juan Manuel Lopez. There are many other names that I prefer to put in front of JuanMa, but this would be a Ring Championship fight at junior featherweight. Anyone else but me notice that The Ring has only six champions for the seventeen divisions in boxing?  I understand that Lopez has a fight scheduled in September, but he is young and can squeeze this one in before the year is out.

Number 4. Israel Vazquez v. Rafael Marquez. If there can be a clause in the contract that neither man will die in the ring or suffer any subsequent disability, then why not let the two warriors give us a fourth fight? If Marquez wins, then tee it up a fifth and final war.

Number 3. Shane Mosley v. Joshua Clottey. Cotto is unavailable and it is highly unlikely that Floyd Mayweather, Jr. will fight anyone but Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao in 2009. Sugar Shane needs to stay active and Clottey can hang with anyone at 147.

Number 2. Kelly Pavlik v. Paul Williams. Arthur Abraham would be the ideal choice to fight Pavlik, but Abraham grew tired of waiting for him. Since Abraham has officially moved to super middleweight, and with Pavlik showing an interest in junior middleweights, then fight Paul Williams. Somebody fight Paul Williams!

Number 1. Michael Katsidis v. Edwin Valero. Katsidis' heart is bigger than his skill level and Valero has knocked out everyone who has stood in front of him. 2009 Fight of the Year candidate, easy.

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Pacquiao-Cotto Set to Be This Year's Super Bowl of Boxing

In other sports such as football or baseball, fans know what months are big. October is MLB’s playoff season, and the Super Bowl happens every February.

Boxing fans have a bit of a revolving door.

Hagler-Hearns was in April, Duran-Leonard was in June, then again in November.

Most sports fans can mark the calendar, but boxing fanatics have to endure rumors, failed contract negotiations and less-than-stellar matchups before a Super Bowl-type fight comes along. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, boxing is like a box of chocolates -- you never know what you're gonna get.

Well, in the case of the upcoming Manny Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight, I know what we’re gonna get -- a great fight. So if you aren't a boxing fan, at least be happy for those of us that are. (A chest bump when you see me would be nice.)

Now we have the date and the fight we wanted -- something big to look forward to, hype up and toil over the outcome.

Bob Arum announced Monday that Pacquiao and Cotto will square off on Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.  This is a fight fan's fight. This year, boxing's Super Bowl, World Series and Stanley Cup takes place in November.

Pacquiao is coming off a career-best performance, knocking out Ricky Hatton in two rounds. Pacman went up to 140 pounds to stop the reigning ring champion. Now the man at the top of the pound-for-pound rankings will go up in weight again, to 145 pounds this time, to lock horns with another pound-for-pounder in Cotto.

The 28-year-old Puerto Rican has been doing what many fighters in boxing haven't lately: putting on entertaining fights against quality opponents. Some of the names on his ledger the past few years include Paul Malignaggi, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and Joshua Clottey. Now you can add the multidivision champion to that list.

Why should you be excited?

Unlike some fights, this Pacquiao-Cotto bout guarantees to pay off. It pits two very exciting fighters against each other, and Pacquiao is arguably the most exciting in all combat sports.

Yes, I said it. Even if you are one of those "MMA is way better than boxing" kind of guys, you must admit a Manny Pacquiao fight is different. He has power, as he proved with Hatton. He has guts, which he proved with Eric Morales. And he has become one of the best all-around fighters in the game, as he proved by moving up several weight divisions to crush the likes of Oscar De La Hoya and David Diaz. Win or lose, you get your money's worth with Manny.

Cotto is coming off a razor-thin decision to the sturdy Clottey, who probably could have taken the fight had he not stopped punching in the late rounds. Unlike De La Hoya, Cotto will not be draining himself to make 145 pounds. Cotto has fought the past few years at 147 pounds, so the two extra pounds shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Cotto is also a sturdy guy with a hell of a punch himself, and he really enjoys going to the body (except against Margarito, which I will never understand). Anyway, he will no doubt be a solid foe for the Filipino icon, and will not make for a boring fight.

These are two proud combatants that seem to fight for more than money. They fight for the fans, and they fight to prove they are the best.

That, my friends, is why you should be excited. So set the DVR, start preparing the wings, and put Nov. 14 on your sports calendar. 

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Pacquiao Vs Cotto Is Official

Promoter Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank, announced today that the mega-fight between boxing’s No. 1 pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao and three-time world champion Miguel Cotto is official.

“Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto have reached an agreement to fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday, November 14,” said Arum. The fight will be seen live on HBO Pay-Per-View. Top Rank is working on a major media tour to start right after Labor Day. Further details will be announced as we get closer to kicking off the tour.”



Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KOs), of General Santos City, Philippines, has won six world titles in as many different weight divisions ranging from 112 to 140 pounds. His performance in 2008 was described as “Henry Armstrongesque,” winning world titles at 130 and 135 pounds with victories over Juan Manuel Marquez and David Diaz, respectively, and knocking out and retiring Oscar De La Hoya at 147 pounds to finish the trifecta. This year, he picked up where he left off last year – winning another world title in a new weight division -- dealing defending junior welterweight champion Ricky Hatton a one-punch second-round knockout on May 2.



Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs), from Caguas, Puerto Rico, has sold more tickets at Madison Square Garden in this millennium than any other fighter. He has held a world title every year since 2004. Puerto Rico’s most exciting fighter, Cotto held the World Boxing Organization (WBO) junior welterweight crown from 2004-2006, successfully defending it six times before vacating it to capture the World Boxing Association (WBA) welterweight title at the end of 2006, a title he held for nearly as long. He won his second welterweight title in February this year, knocking out Michael Jennings in the fifth round at Madison Square Garden to become the WBO welterweight champion. Notable scalps on Cotto’s belt include Sugar Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Joshua Clottey, Pauli Malinaggi, and Demarcus Corley.

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Manny Pacquiao’s Most Effective Techniques part 5: Speedy Combinations. The conclusion.

Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar Dela Hoya, 1 minute 20 seconds left in round seven, Manny Pacquiao jumped onto Oscar Dela Hoya with super fast six punch combination that was punctuated by a hard left straight! Oscar got rocked and was holding on to the top rope... 1 minute 12 seconds left in round seven, Manny Pacquiao leapt towards Oscar Dela Hoya again, and threw a beautiful four punch combination to the Oscar Dela Hoya’s face! All of those punches connected in pin-point accuracy. When the round was over, that four punch combination was replayed in super-slow motion, and it’s a marvel to witness something as brutal yet as beautiful as that! And each time they showed that replay, you can hear the audience exclaiming their “Oooooh!” and “Ahhhhhh!” everytime they see the punch connect in that replay.

Manny Pacquiao, is the pound for pound best boxer in the world. He amazed us with his relentlessness. His stamina is simply amazing. It seems like as the rounds go by, he gets stronger and stronger while his opponents gets more and more tired. His speed is truly awe inspiring. His footwo... he is right in front of you when he hits you, and then he’s nowhere to be found when his opponents tries to hit him back.

And what amazes people when he fights are his combinations. Which brings us to Manny Pacquiao’s Most Effective Techniques part 5: Speedy Combinations. The conclusion.

Those combinations didn’t come by just like that for Manny Pacquiao. In the beginning, Manny only have the one-two combination, he would flick the right jab and with the left straight being the deadly blow that usually brings his opponents down. And yes, he brought down many of his opponents even with his limited skills, and pure raw power.

Somehow Coach Freddie Roach has molded Manny Pacquiao into a truly great fighter he is today. Now, Manny Pacquiao throws variety of combinations, to the head and to the body. Hook, uppercut, cross, hook to the body… Jab, straight, hook, straig... etc. etc. Then by the time his opponents tries to counter, his foot work will just move out of range and they can’t hit him. Which is really too bad for Manny Pacquiao opponen... its bad enough being hit by one of Manny Pacquiao’s wicked power punch, but his punches usually are followed up by four or five more of those bad intentioned, speedy, punches coming at more than 100kms per hour! That’s why Pacquiao’s opponents can’t see where Manny’s punches are coming from! They may be able to block or evade one or two of them, but it’s almost impossible to block or evade all of them when punches are raining. And here’s more bad news for Manny’s opponents; Pacquiao never gets tired! He never gets
punched out! He will rain combination punches on his opponent from round 1 to 12.

From a one-armed left-handed fighter, to a complete fighter we now know today, we are fortunate to live in this lifetime to witness the greatness of a one Manny Pacquiao. And from where he started, homeless, forced to sell cigarettes in the streets of Manila to earn a living due to poverty; to get where he is right now, the pound for pound best fighter in the world, and one of the highest paid athlete of his time. It took Manny Pacquiao to tread the long hard road. He started fighting at age 16 for $2 per fig... Now he is the most sought after fighter! Whoever he fights will get the biggest payday of their lives. All these came to Manny Pacquiao because of his amazing dedication.

As the saying goes “It is not about the will to win. Everybody has that. It is the will to prepare to win!”

When Manny Pacquiao trains, he’s a machine. Freddie Roach sometimes needed to slow him down to keep him from doing too much. There are also times when Freddie Roach needed to stop Manny from doing more “extra” rounds during training. The legendary coach knows that “overtraining” is even worse than under training. Because once you got yourself injured, all that you’ve trained for shall be wasted. Manny is reported to knock out his bigger sparring partners every now and then, during training camp. As Manny Pacaquiao said “If you train hard, the fight is easy.”

Many can be said about how great Manny Pacquiao is as a fighter, but what makes him the greatest is not only about his fights inside the ring, but also the way he conducts himself outside the it. Manny Pacquiao is truly a champion, in his thoughts, in his words and in his actions. Its hard to believe how humble and down to earth the pound for pound best fighter in the world, but he is! He never brags about himself, he never bad mouth his opponents, his discipline inside and outside the ring is inspiring. And it’s a joy to witness Manny Pacquiao and his most effective techniques in our lifetime.

And as a conclusion, quoting Bob Arum, a hall of fame boxing promoter, who’s been in the business for forty years and had seen the likes of Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, et. al.

“This young man (Manny Pacquiao) after all the record books were writt... is the greatest boxer ever lived! Not the greatest boxer of his era... But the greatest boxer ever lived! You know what makes Manny Pacquiao so great? Its because he never stop learning! Many people when they are the best, they refuse to learn, thinking they already know it all, that’s why they are the best. But Manny Pacquiao, is always eager to learn something new. That’s why in each fight, he keeps getting better and better. That’s why he’s the greatest.” 

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Clearer Heads Prevail: Pacquiao And Cotto Agree To A Real Fight

Finally, clearer heads prevailed this week. Shortly there will be a press conference to announce that Manny Pacquiao 49-3-2 (37) the best junior welterweight in the world, will fight WBO welterweight champ Miguel Cotto 34-1 (27) on November 14th in Las Vegas. Cotto's WBO welterweight title will be on the line, however there is a 145 pound catch-weight clause in the contract. Catch-weight fights are not something I like, but this isn't too bad and shouldn't have much or any bearing as to the outcome. If Pacquiao wins, it's legit and he gets full credit, and if Cotto wins he gets full credit and it can't be said he picked a smaller fighter.

The Arum/Roach/Pacquiao faction did the right thing by scrapping the clause insisting that Cotto had to weigh in at 143. What they've now done is put together a bout that will be regarded as the only true super-fight of the year, being that two of boxing’s best are meeting at or near their prime. Both fighters have a huge following; one is an all-time great (Pacquiao) and the other (Cotto) is an outstanding/great fighter. This fight will make the fan interest for Pacquiao-Hatton look like the hype before an NFL wildcard game compared to the Super Bowl.

As it has been mentioned here before, Manny Pacquiao didn't fear fighting Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley at or near the welterweight limit of 147. The catch-weight issue was pushed onto him by his trainer, Freddie Roach, and promoter Bob Arum. It was all business. When all is said and done, without the Pacquiao faction being able to come to terms with Floyd Mayweather Jr., they chose the right welterweight for Pacquiao to fight with the hopes of him grabbing another title.

Cotto was out-muscled physically by Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey in three of his last four fights.  With that Pacquiao will not be fighting a super-strong welterweight, which is why the catch-weight of 143 would've really handicapped Cotto. Along with that, Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey have a better chin than Cotto. On the negative side for Pacquiao, Cotto has shown he's definitely more versatile than Margarito and Clottey. He may not be more versatile than Mosley, but he has shown to be better at adjusting to varying styles in the middle of the fight than Mosley sometimes is.

Cotto is the heaviest and strongest fighter Pacquiao has ever fought and will no doubt be highly motivated knowing he opened as a 2-1 betting underdog. He recently fought and probably hasn't let himself get to far out of shape, knowing that there was a real possibility of him being Pacquiao's next opponent. Miguel is a much heavier handed puncher than Ricky Hatton, and he doesn't come at you in a straight line. Not only can he fight as the attacker, he can also step back and counter, although that may not be the best strategy to employ versus a quick handed fighter like Pacquiao who is very accurate and usually lands cleanly with his set up and finishing punches.

Pacquiao appears to be one of the rare fighters who has brought his two handed power up to the higher weight with him. Despite Cotto being perceived as being the bigger guy, I get the feeling once they're in front of each other in the ring, Manny won't look like the smaller fighter. According to their measurements Pacquiao is only a half inch shorter and their reach is about the same, which is a big advantage for Pacquiao based on the strategy both will probably choose to adopt.

Speaking of strategies -- this one is pretty easy to figure out. Cotto has to take his supposed advantage in strength and make it the dominating factor in the fight. Basically, he has to do the same thing Ricky Hatton needed to do when he fought Pacquiao, only Miguel posses the better tools to execute it. Cotto has to get inside and bang Pacquiao to the body, but he has to do it without getting picked apart and hammered on the way in. Under the best case scenario Cotto has to force Manny to have to rush his shots and fight him off, instead of using his speed and angles to pick his spots. My one reservation with Cotto forcing it from the onset is Manny's early hand-speed combined with Cotto's slowness in the early rounds and his vulnerable chin.

For Pacquiao, the best case is for him to have Cotto come to him, without being overwhelmingly aggressive. Having Cotto following him sets Manny up perfectly to hit him with some blistering shots on the way in. Cotto would be best served to try to either put some real hurt on Pacquiao early and possibly stop him, because if Pacquiao isn't hurt or slowed by the second half of the fight, we know Cotto slows down and tries to run out the clock. And if it comes down to one fighter waiting on the other, Cotto loses. Miguel has to force Manny to react to what he does instead of trying to anticipate what he's going to do and then react to that.

This is a tremendous fight on paper to ponder. Can Pacquiao handle Cotto's heavy hands? Cotto may not be a great puncher, but he can really hurt and slow his opponent to the body and is a terrific finisher. On the other hand can Cotto navigate the mine-field he'll be walking into at the hands of Pacquiao? Will Cotto having to drop to 145 take much out of him, or has Pacquiao finally hit the tipping point moving up? It mustn't be overlooked that Cotto knows Pacquiao is the star and it'll be hard getting the decision if it's a close fight. And that may force him to fight with even more urgency, which could lead to him really trying to overwhelm Pacquiao physically, or getting caught and stopped on the way in trying to.

This fight would be beyond reproach if Cotto didn't have to weigh under the 147 pound welterweight limit, but I can't complain. No doubt both fighters wanted this fight and did what they could to make it happen. Everybody wins here. Pacquiao can make history and further solidify his legacy as one of the pound-for-pound greats in history. And even if he loses, his status as a great is safe and won't be hurt by the loss. As for Cotto, beating Pacquiao gives his career a huge infusion and will put him near or at the top of the pound-for-pound rankings. If he loses, he'll be paid handsomely for it and at 145 can accept it knowing he gave it his best shot. Along with that, if Cotto does lose he will have no doubt put up a great fight and will be heard from again.

Lastly, boxing fans win too. They'll get to see two REAL FIGHTERS who represent everything that's great about the sport of professional boxing. Nothing beats a great championship fight between two of the best in the sport when it comes to action, drama and excitement.

Thank you Manny and Miguel for acting like real adults and professional fighters -- that's why fight fans hold you both in such high esteem and consider you champions.

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Floyd is an “exciting” talker, but needs to be a more exciting fighter

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is known for his tactical, defensive style when he fights. He might not be a crowd pleaser in the mold of the late Arturo Gatti or current pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, but you have to give credit where credit is due. The guy is one of the true master practitioners of the Sweet Science.

However, in contrast to his subdued and safety-first attitude inside the ring is his brash, offensive, and loud nature outside of it. Mayweather. is most especially adept at trash talking, and one would be hard put to distinguish between pure theatrics for the purposes of fight promotion and real insulting behavior.

Take Mayweather 's latest comment for instance, from a recent Cagewriter report: "In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighters is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new."

Let’s take a look at the current champions in several weight divisions to see if there is any truth to Mayweather’s claim.

In the heavweight division, Ruslan Chagaev and Nikolay Valuev currently share the WBA heavyweight title. Wladimir Klitschko currently holds the IBF, WBO, IBO and Ring Magazine world heavyweight titles. His elder brother, Vitali Klitschko, is the current WBC world heavyweight champion. All four are white. Going down to cruiserweight, we have a couple of white fighters, Tomasz Adamek, the IBF titleholder, as well as Giacobbe Fragomeni, the WBC champion. Over at super middleweight, we have a trio of white boxers, namely WBA super middleweight champion Mikkel Kessler, WBC super middleweight titlist Carl Froch, and IBF super middleweight titleholder Lucian Bute. Felix Sturm and Kelly Pavlik, both white, hold most of the alphabet belts at middleweight. Vyacheslav Senchenko is the current WBA welterweight champion. And, you guessed it, he is white as well.

I’d like to go on and on but I guess I’ve already made my point. Those are already 12 Caucasian boxing champions that I mentioned. So, needless to say, Mayweather’s latest comment about black guys “dominating” boxing is really baseless. Remember, this is the same guy who criticized HBO and their broadcast team in an interview with Grand Rapids Press' David Mayo last year.

"Even a guy like Jim Lampley, he praises Kelly Pavlik -- who has won some good fights, he beat Jermain Taylor twice, we have to give him credit for that -- but they talk about Kelly Pavlik, a white fighter, like he's the second coming or they go crazy over Manny Pacquiao. But I'm a black fighter," Mayweather. said.

"Is it racial? Absolutely. They praise white fighters, they praise Hispanic fighters, whatever. But black fighters, they never praise. I've noticed it for a long time but I couldn't say anything because I had to do business with them. I'll still do business with them, but I'm done holding my tongue.”

The HBO team did not praise Pavlik because he is white. They commended him for his fan-friendly fighting style. The HBO people go gaga over Pacquiao not because he is Filipino, but because he fights like there’s no tomorrow. HBO aired an Arturo Gatti tribute not because he was white, and fight fans mourn Gatti’s loss because he was the consummate blood and guts warrior, because of his fights with Micky Ward, and because he ignored pain and physical injury, leaving everything in the ring.

Truth is, maybe Mayweather is just unpopular with boxing fans, especially the casual boxing fans, because he isn’t that exciting to watch.

Ouch.

The truth hurts, but hey, it’s the truth. Mayweather can’t fault the fans if they don’t find him exciting enough. So, as you see, this is not an issue of race at all.

I cover both the MMA and boxing beat for this website and I don’t see a problem at all with both sports coexisting. The last thing we need is negative comments that could fuel hatred and bigotry.

One of my favorite fighters in MMA today is Anderson “The Spider” Silva. He is black. But I wouldn’t have cared any less if he were of another skin color. I really don’t care. I like Silva and respect him irrespective of his race. I follow his fights because I enjoy watching them.

I wish I could say the same thing for Mayweather. I wish I could say that I really enjoy watching his fights.

But then I remember his fight against Carlos Baldomir where a lot of fans left the stadium out of boredom long before the final bell rang.

I hope Mayweather does something soon, before it’s too late. I’m sure he wants to be remembered more as an exciting fighter rather than an “exciting” (with emphasis on the quotation marks) talker.

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Kobe Bryant or Manny Pacquiao? You decide

For those of you that don't know, Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant recently embarked on a tour of Asia. One of his first stops was the Philippines, where he is adored by countless fans.

Kobe, however, is not the most popular athlete in the archipelago. That title (along with many others) belongs to arguably the best pound-for-pound boxer around, Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is a native of the Philippines and has surpassed Elvis-like status throughout the island nation.

Pacquiao's popularity has carried over to the United States, particularly Los Angeles. He trains there and the city's large Filipino population has embraced the boxer as their own.

Kobe wisely commended Pacquiao's greatness in a recent interview in The Philippine Star:

Manny’s the man. He’s got talent and his work ethic is incredible. The first time I met him (during a recent Nike photo shoot in Los Angeles), I saw in his eyes he’s special. He has the look of a man who’s driven to excellence.

Kobe's words are from the heart, I'm sure.  But they beg an interesting question: Who's better?

I know, I know...it's apples and oranges. There's no way to compare a boxer and a basketball player. Kobe could post up and shoot over the 5-7 Pacquiao on the court, but in the ring even Kobe's reach advantage would prove futile once the Pac Man hit him with a crippling body blow.

So what can we do?

How about a series of neutral competitions to prove who is the better athlete? Whoever wins the most events gets the crown. In case you're having trouble envisioning it, here are a couple examples:

• Hot Dog Eating Contest: Pacquiao can probably put away some serious grub when he's carbo-loading for an upcoming fight, but Kobe's similarity in name to competitive eating legend Takeru Kobayashi has to give him the edge here.
• Dance-off: While these moves show considerable potential for Kobe, you have to think that the lightning-quick, agile Pacquiao would be able to do some serious damage on the dance floor. Advantage Pac Man.
• Wet T-Shirt Contest: This one would drive the ladies wild and add fuel to countless man-crushes. When you look at the evidence of Kobe's torso and Pacquiao's torso, it's pretty much a no-brainer. Advantage Pac Man.
• Speech and Debate: Kobe's been speaking in public since he was 17 years old, so he clearly has the advantage here. Plus Pacquiao's accent, while endearing, doesn't allow for maximum enunciation. Possible topics include: Rings vs. Belts: the better championship prize?

Well, those are just a few ideas on how to determine who's the better athlete. Obviously those competitions would be pretty hard to hold (Kobe and Pacquiao are both busy men), so I'll leave it up to you to decide.

Answer the poll question and sound off in the comments field. I have to believe Kobe has an obvious advantage since this is, after all, a Lakers column. So Pacquiao fans unite and let your voice be heard! We'll check back in a few days and see how the results are going.

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